A curious oddity...
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Re: A curious oddity...
Well that probably reflects on the general Facebook atmosphere. A site like this or others is more "specialized" shall we say, with folks who are more than just casual builders. On Facebook, anybody can post, whether they have an informed and/or experienced something to say or not. On sites like this, most folks have a solid background and have found by trial and error what works for them, and what does not. And many are willing to share and pass that knowledge on. Oh course the smoothness of delivery varies by the individual. There is less likelihood of someone saying use cocoa powder as a pigment, in most likely a trolling post (Surely you can't be serious), as an honest cost saving suggestion. I'm not trying to sound elitist, but with time and experience in any activity comes a bit of acquired wisdom.
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Re: A curious oddity...
I think what has started to annoy me, is the number of "experts" that have no examples of their work, or experience in using the techniques suggested.
If I have taken the time to answer one of those fb group questions, I either know someone who has used the technique, tool, etc.. in question, (and will link them), or have done it myself. Then I will describe my success or fail and post my example.
It amazes me, with all the information available on the internet, they choose to listen to 19 year old Tommy, who saw a tank in a movie once, but is an expert because he plays World of Tanks.
If I have taken the time to answer one of those fb group questions, I either know someone who has used the technique, tool, etc.. in question, (and will link them), or have done it myself. Then I will describe my success or fail and post my example.
It amazes me, with all the information available on the internet, they choose to listen to 19 year old Tommy, who saw a tank in a movie once, but is an expert because he plays World of Tanks.
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Re: A curious oddity...
I only use FB to stay in touch with friends who live far away or to keep me informed about events in my town. Not under my real name btw.
Most members of those modeling groups had solely signed in because they saw some cool pics of tanks / planes / dios etc.
It's common FB (and other social networks) culture to write comments just to ...write comments. No matter if they have a clue of the topic they're writing about. They just had something about it in their mind and write it down in the very same second.
Annoying, but thankfully there's SPAM.
Most members of those modeling groups had solely signed in because they saw some cool pics of tanks / planes / dios etc.
It's common FB (and other social networks) culture to write comments just to ...write comments. No matter if they have a clue of the topic they're writing about. They just had something about it in their mind and write it down in the very same second.
Annoying, but thankfully there's SPAM.
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Re: A curious oddity...
"cheaping out" has always been a puzzler for me, too.
I build in the "cheaper scale", and some of my kits actually cost more than some of the smaller 1/48 kits cost.
I also don't understand the thinking behind using cheap glue or cheap paint on a $40 model kit,,,,,,or my real favorite, believing someone and mixing the expensive paints with cheap paint thinner, "to see if that guy on the internet was right". And I really don't get it if we are talking $80-120 larger kits in 1/48 or 1/32.
I think that at the least when it comes to these "cheap" tips, there should be something such as one of your magazine articles or something else that seems "more permanent" to showcase the idea in. Not just fleeting electrons that can be so easily edited out that when you go back to show Fellow Modeler Sam on FB, and find that it is gone.
Even without aftermarket,,,,,we use expensive kits, expensive decals, some of the most expensive paint in the world (ounce per ounce), that all adds up to "show it to me first" when someone says to thin it with spit, and weather it with Nestle's, as in your example.
I build in the "cheaper scale", and some of my kits actually cost more than some of the smaller 1/48 kits cost.
I also don't understand the thinking behind using cheap glue or cheap paint on a $40 model kit,,,,,,or my real favorite, believing someone and mixing the expensive paints with cheap paint thinner, "to see if that guy on the internet was right". And I really don't get it if we are talking $80-120 larger kits in 1/48 or 1/32.
I think that at the least when it comes to these "cheap" tips, there should be something such as one of your magazine articles or something else that seems "more permanent" to showcase the idea in. Not just fleeting electrons that can be so easily edited out that when you go back to show Fellow Modeler Sam on FB, and find that it is gone.
Even without aftermarket,,,,,we use expensive kits, expensive decals, some of the most expensive paint in the world (ounce per ounce), that all adds up to "show it to me first" when someone says to thin it with spit, and weather it with Nestle's, as in your example.
Re: A curious oddity...
...yes...
Re: A curious oddity...
Just ignore those foolish posts and concentrate on your own experiences. That easy. Thats at least what I do with FB groups - there are good ones with a big amount of pros (like Kow Yokoyama for example, special interest Scifi things is just the right thing for my daddys son...) and there are not. And always will be.
There are far more cheaper solutions like MIG pigments (just to name a popular thing). Pastel chalk for example. But Nestle cocoa powder? Just makes me laugh, thats really ridiculous.

But my brushes and AM stuff are expensive, hell yeah!
Why? Because I want a
Everything else would be a waste of money.
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I think what has started to annoy me, is the number of "experts" that have no examples of their work, or experience in using the techniques suggested.
Oooooh yeah. One of those people, lets call him "Klaus" is an admin of a certain forum. Name shall be unknown. Hes a collector and nothing else, I dont know of one kit he has build (oh, just forgot two 28mm figures, to be honest). - tells me that "its better to leave my first impression unsaid" and all that stuff. Almost all those mods did, elbows out (including funny sayings like "Go phoque urself" etc. and all the fun just to keep the "good mood" alive and kicking. Good old German seriousness.
The mods took it the easy way: Membership closed. Because I dared to speak about constructive criticism and didnt "Hooray" everywhere just to kiss someones backbone. Naaah, come on.
Reason? "You disturb the forums peace".
REALLY?
Has nothing to do with seriousness, its just ridiculous. Now, with a bit of distance, it makes me just laugh.
I dont care, theres a few people who asked "what happened?!" or "Are they serious?! Thats just crap!" - and those are the people that are most important - not any fictional FB friendships. Theyre nice, but - with a few exceptions - those people in the list are people I know personally.
Easy as that...
There are far more cheaper solutions like MIG pigments (just to name a popular thing). Pastel chalk for example. But Nestle cocoa powder? Just makes me laugh, thats really ridiculous.
But my brushes and AM stuff are expensive, hell yeah!
Why? Because I want a
Everything else would be a waste of money.
>>
I think what has started to annoy me, is the number of "experts" that have no examples of their work, or experience in using the techniques suggested.
Oooooh yeah. One of those people, lets call him "Klaus" is an admin of a certain forum. Name shall be unknown. Hes a collector and nothing else, I dont know of one kit he has build (oh, just forgot two 28mm figures, to be honest). - tells me that "its better to leave my first impression unsaid" and all that stuff. Almost all those mods did, elbows out (including funny sayings like "Go phoque urself" etc. and all the fun just to keep the "good mood" alive and kicking. Good old German seriousness.
The mods took it the easy way: Membership closed. Because I dared to speak about constructive criticism and didnt "Hooray" everywhere just to kiss someones backbone. Naaah, come on.
Reason? "You disturb the forums peace".
REALLY?
Has nothing to do with seriousness, its just ridiculous. Now, with a bit of distance, it makes me just laugh.
I dont care, theres a few people who asked "what happened?!" or "Are they serious?! Thats just crap!" - and those are the people that are most important - not any fictional FB friendships. Theyre nice, but - with a few exceptions - those people in the list are people I know personally.
Easy as that...
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Re: A curious oddity...
For me FB is a time stealer. I only use it to promote this site or news from my friends in Kyoto. No personal stuff belongs up FB. As others it´s one of many ways to keep in touch with friends. That´s it. Too much crap posted there. Politics? I am running... As said before, it steals too much life time to follow the mostly nonsense there. My five Cents.
I am with Rex and Jim: I cannot see why on earth I buy a top dollar kit and then should try to save some money by trying to use home depot thinners with paints, for example? There have been numerous debates on modelling forums on why a non-generic thinner won´t work with Tamiya, Gunze, or whatever paints. What the heck? I never found this useful. Too each brand of paints I use I also get their respective thinner. It is as easy as it is! Did you ever try to make your own fuel for your Benz?
I am with Rex and Jim: I cannot see why on earth I buy a top dollar kit and then should try to save some money by trying to use home depot thinners with paints, for example? There have been numerous debates on modelling forums on why a non-generic thinner won´t work with Tamiya, Gunze, or whatever paints. What the heck? I never found this useful. Too each brand of paints I use I also get their respective thinner. It is as easy as it is! Did you ever try to make your own fuel for your Benz?
Re: A curious oddity...
LOL. True. Or you buy a Porsche and wonder how expensive new tires are.
"Whaaat, I thought hes gotta have 175er tires!".
"Whaaat, I thought hes gotta have 175er tires!".
"Did you really pay a big amount of money for only half a figure?!"
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Re: A curious oddity...
You for sure have a head-turner driving a Porsche with such slim tyres, hehe... 