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Skyraider Curse or Trouble with Tamiya?

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:01 pm
by cbaltrin
First off, let me state that I always wash my kits before painting...

So this is very interesting... Been using Tamiya paints since they arrived on the market and never have had an issue. Lately the paint has failed me on two different kits. Very oddly, they are both Skyraiders and both colors are a light grey. The picture here is a Hasegawa 1/72 Skyraider and the paint is a custom mix of Tamiya XF acrylics. There is some serious adhesion issues going on. First the area in question started cracking like a dry lake bed, then paint started chipping off. That was several months ago. Fast forward to this month. I shot some Tamiya lacquer paint (LP) Insignia white on my Monogram A-1H I am building for the Monogram Mafia GB. A week later it starts cracking in a few areas and flaking off... What the flip? This is very discouraging and very unmotivating when you can no longer trust your paint. :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: I may need to prime from now on.. I can't get over the fact that both issues came on Skyraiders :hmm: , with relatively the same shade of paint :hmm: , but one is Acrylic Tamiya and the other is Lacquer :hmm: ...

No sense in showing the Monogram kit as I already brushed over the affected areas with Tamiya White Surfacer.. .but here with what the Hasegawa kit looks like...
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Re: Skyraider Curse or Trouble with Tamiya?

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:59 pm
by jeaton01
Ugh. My sympathies, never had that happen with Tamiya paint. What thinner are you using, and was it the same in both cases?

Re: Skyraider Curse or Trouble with Tamiya?

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:08 pm
by cbaltrin
I don't remember what thinner I used on the Hasegawa kit John, with the the latter LP paint, Mr Color leveling thinner... Definitely not leveling thinner with the hasegawa kit...

Re: Skyraider Curse or Trouble with Tamiya?

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:14 pm
by Stikpusher
Wow. I can imagine that this would be most discouraging. Once is a fluke, but twice? I had recently heard about airbrushing in temps that are too cool causing a cracking problem with acrylics, but the adhesion issue is something else.

Re: Skyraider Curse or Trouble with Tamiya?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:12 am
by LyleW
That does seem strange. Kill a chcken and sprinkle the blood on the kits. Then fry the chicken. May not help, but dinner will be good.

I certainly do not have the experience with paints that you guys do, but I've not seen this. I use Tamiya a lot and never have I seen this. I just sprayed rattle can Tamiya Insignia white over bottle TAmiya Dark Sea Gray and had no problems.

Was it the same bottles of paint? I have had issues with Tamiya Acrylics and the Mr. Levelng Thinner a couple of times.

I'm sorry for the problems.

Re: Skyraider Curse or Trouble with Tamiya?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:49 am
by BlackSheep214
I never, ever wash my sprues before painting. There's only one thing I'm suspect is the cause - detergent used to wash your sprues. Some detergents leave subtle residual greasiness behind. The other reason I don't wash my sprues it's too much work and a waste of time. Basically an overkill so to speak.

I have never had issues using Tamiya paint as you've described.

Re: Skyraider Curse or Trouble with Tamiya?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:06 pm
by cbaltrin
BlackSheep214 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:49 am I never, ever wash my sprues before painting. There's only one thing I'm suspect is the cause - detergent used to wash your sprues.
I don't wash sprues either :tease:
...but I do wash the model to remove grease,dust,and static...

Your point about detergent residue may be worth looking into. Might have to do a little experiment...

Re: Skyraider Curse or Trouble with Tamiya?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:39 pm
by Medicman71
For science of course. :giggles:

Re: Skyraider Curse or Trouble with Tamiya?

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:49 am
by tempestjohnny
I don't wash sprues either and use Tamiya alot. I've never had an issue like this. There has to be some kind of contaminant thats preventing the paint from adhering.

Re: Skyraider Curse or Trouble with Tamiya?

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:55 am
by Stikpusher
tempestjohnny wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:49 am I don't wash sprues either and use Tamiya alot. I've never had an issue like this. There has to be some kind of contaminant thats preventing the paint from adhering.
That would be my thought as well. Skin oils or sweat on your hands would be my first suspected cause.